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WOM clues

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WOM clues

From: Alafair (lkazel@mindspring.com) | Date: 2004-08-23 07:25:40 UTC
First, let me say to all who read this list, Mark and Sue are two of
the nicest and most enthusiastic letterboxers I have ever had the
pleasure of meeting. Their website is one of my fave boxing sites.
Their contributions to letterboxing have been nothing but positive.
Thanks for all you have done.

The onion metaphor is right on.

I happen to be familiar with an area where there are very few
letterboxes and letterboxers though I live in boxious CT. I'll pass
along my experience with giving and getting WOM clues that concerns
some boxes in that area.

If any boxer wishes to play the game this way in an area similar to
the type of place I mentioned above, the effort starts with YOU. YOU
must plant the boxes and reach out to people who might want to find
your boxes. Regional talk lists are perfect for this endeavor. You
can post that you have planted a box or a series whose clues are not
on the LbNA site and invite people to respond. You can email people
in your state off list and spread the word that you have WOM boxes.
You can place clues or a link to WOM boxes in another box. It does
take time and imagination. You must be patient. The fewer the boxes
and boxers there are in your area/state, the longer it takes.

I planted a series of WOM boxes that were snail mail only. I got many
requests from locals and from passers-through for the clues. I kept
all the snail mail addresses and am getting ready to plant another
series and will send the new clues to everyone I sent the first set
to. This takes time and patience. In return, I have gotten some juicy
hard-to-come-by WOM clues.

WOM clues open up countless places for boxes that publicly posted
clues can not as Ryan stated earlier. You may have less finders but I
can tell you the victories for both finder and placer are sweeter. If
you snail mail your clues, the opportunities for artfulness, if you
are so inclined, are endless. I have opened my mailbox and have found
hand bound books with WOM clues. What letterboxer would not love that
surprise? Minimally, well concealed boxes with well written WOM clues
are likely safer. There are urban WOM boxes out there that have
survived far longer than if they had been published on the LbNA site.

Some may argue that they are deprived of some letterboxes if they
can't go to the LbNA site and print off the clues. As Mark said,
there are indeed layers of the onion that are not for everyone.
Seeking out WOM clues takes time and effort to be sure. For as many
boxers as there are, there are also varying degrees of effort and
skill involved. There are beautifully made artistic gems or clever
mystery box clues or straightforward clues that are published and
some that are not.

There is no reason why new boxers cannot play the game this way if
they choose to do so. Take a chance, be creative and do it your way.
As Mark said, "we encourage and support you all." And like Mark, I
will also offer to help anyone anytime with your questions and
concerns. Just email me off list.

The bottom line is that there is something here for everyone and that
is what makes letterboxing so interesting. Kinda like the peeling the
layers of an onion.

Mark, do boxers from the south have to peel sweet Vidalia's and
likewise, Texans, those monster 1015's? Are scallions and shallots
an acceptable substitute for those gourmet type boxers? ;o)

Alafair


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Pepe"
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> Kerri and other new boxers:
>
>
> We all appreciate new boxers. After all, new boxers perpetuate the
work
> of veterans... I see letterboxing as an onion [pardon the
metaphor]... The website and talk lists are just the surface.
> Warning - not all of these layers of the letterboxing onion are for
> everyone...We encourage and support you all.
>
> If I can ever be of help to anyone - don't hesitate to email me.
>
> Have fun and just get out there & box!!! [And start peeling away the
> letterboxing onion!]
>
> Mark Pepe
> http://markandsuepepe.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
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WOM clues

From: April Duritza (april@ashhaven.com) | Date: 2004-09-08 15:02:54 UTC-04:00
On another topic: How do you count it when you plant WOM boxes? I assume
you just count it as a P ? Or is it supposed to be completely "off the
books"? I know, I know, the numbers don't really matter. But it is sort of
fun to keep track!



Thanks!

April

The Duritza Family



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Re: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: (mjpepe1@comcast.net) | Date: 2004-09-08 19:10:47 UTC
Hi April:
WOM's should count as any other P. That's how we do it and have seen it done by others. I just don't list them on our website where our P's are listed.

Have fun and just get out there & box!!!

Mark Pepe
http://markandsuepepe.blogspot.com/



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On another topic: How do you count it when you plant WOM boxes? I assume
you just count it as a P ? Or is it supposed to be completely "off the
books"? I know, I know, the numbers don't really matter. But it is sort of
fun to keep track!



Thanks!

April

The Duritza Family



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Re: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee Hedge (lady_prisspott@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-08 20:34:21 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, mjpepe1@c... wrote:
> Hi April:
> WOM's should count as any other P. That's how we do it and have seen
it done by others. I just don't list them on our website where our P's
are listed.
>
> Have fun and just get out there & box!!!
>
> Mark Pepe


Oh Yipee, new letters! So let's see:

F= plain old boring find (usually of a 1, 2 or 3 on the PI scale)
HH= hitchhiker
V= virtual...although if you don't get out from behind that computer
you'll wish your fat ass were virtual
PLB= postal letter box for the Particularly Lazy Boxer
N= Naked boxing (that tramp Ivy is up to N2)
FF= first finder
S= encountered snakes
PH= Purple Heart for getting injured while boxing
Ps=parasite which never caught on, hello, it's still a hitchhiker
SBAF= shoulda been a find (my first box was a sbaf, even had to sort
out incorrect the directions and it was STILL missing)
CBAF= coulda been a find but I got distracted on the way and found
something better to do
WBAF= woulda been a find but those damn picnickers were sitting right
next to the box ALL DAY!
X= exchange, if showing up at a party and getting 52 stamps in one
hour without getting up from the picnic table counts then my SBAF counts!
U= underwater box
T= toasted/tipsy and STILL found the box even with those lousy
directions (drunk letterboxing, try it at your next gathering...)
H= found it while in heels and you still made me walk four miles only
to end up at the parking lot, your getting a bill from my chiropodist!
M=mystery box
VM= virtually a mystery box cause the clues were so bad
DL= dead lemur box
WWJD= got a sermon from the religious clues I had to put up with while
hunting for this box.

And now we can add WOM, at this rate I can parse out all my F's! Have
I missed any Psychomommy?








Re: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: Hikers_n_ Hounds (hikers_n_hounds@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-08 15:11:40 UTC-07:00
Wow, what an "un-ladylike" rant! Cool!!!!

Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee Hedge wrote:--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, mjpepe1@c... wrote:
> Hi April:
> WOM's should count as any other P. That's how we do it and have seen
it done by others. I just don't list them on our website where our P's
are listed.
>
> Have fun and just get out there & box!!!
>
> Mark Pepe


Oh Yipee, new letters! So let's see:

F= plain old boring find (usually of a 1, 2 or 3 on the PI scale)
HH= hitchhiker
V= virtual...although if you don't get out from behind that computer
you'll wish your fat ass were virtual
PLB= postal letter box for the Particularly Lazy Boxer
N= Naked boxing (that tramp Ivy is up to N2)
FF= first finder
S= encountered snakes
PH= Purple Heart for getting injured while boxing
Ps=parasite which never caught on, hello, it's still a hitchhiker
SBAF= shoulda been a find (my first box was a sbaf, even had to sort
out incorrect the directions and it was STILL missing)
CBAF= coulda been a find but I got distracted on the way and found
something better to do
WBAF= woulda been a find but those damn picnickers were sitting right
next to the box ALL DAY!
X= exchange, if showing up at a party and getting 52 stamps in one
hour without getting up from the picnic table counts then my SBAF counts!
U= underwater box
T= toasted/tipsy and STILL found the box even with those lousy
directions (drunk letterboxing, try it at your next gathering...)
H= found it while in heels and you still made me walk four miles only
to end up at the parking lot, your getting a bill from my chiropodist!
M=mystery box
VM= virtually a mystery box cause the clues were so bad
DL= dead lemur box
WWJD= got a sermon from the religious clues I had to put up with while
hunting for this box.

And now we can add WOM, at this rate I can parse out all my F's! Have
I missed any Psychomommy?








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Re: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) | Date: 2004-09-08 23:01:21 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee
Hedge" wrote:

> H= found it while in heels and you still made me walk four miles
only
> to end up at the parking lot, your getting a bill from my
chiropodist!


Here in California this "H" might be counted "I D"

Don


Re: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: zed_boxing (szorzi_1999@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-09-08 23:02:52 UTC
You forgot PM = post mortem boxing. See Steve's post #45336! ;-)

Happy hunting,
Zed

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee
Hedge" wrote:

>
>
> Oh Yipee, new letters! So let's see:
>.
>
> And now we can add WOM, at this rate I can parse out all my F's!
Have
> I missed any Psychomommy?


RE: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: Pam Kleingers (pam@kleingers.net) | Date: 2004-09-08 19:07:23 UTC-04:00
LOL!

Took me a few but I eventually got it!!

Mama Stork
>
>
> Here in California this "H" might be counted "I D"
>
> Don
>
>

Re: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: catbead1 (libby@twcny.rr.com) | Date: 2004-09-08 23:38:42 UTC
You forgot the mighty
LTB = Litterboxing

catbead


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee
Hedge" wrote:
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, mjpepe1@c... wrote:
> > Hi April:
> > WOM's should count as any other P. That's how we do it and have seen
> it done by others. I just don't list them on our website where our P's
> are listed.
> >
> > Have fun and just get out there & box!!!
> >
> > Mark Pepe
>
>
> Oh Yipee, new letters! So let's see:
>
> F= plain old boring find (usually of a 1, 2 or 3 on the PI scale)
> HH= hitchhiker
> V= virtual...although if you don't get out from behind that computer
> you'll wish your fat ass were virtual
> PLB= postal letter box for the Particularly Lazy Boxer
> N= Naked boxing (that tramp Ivy is up to N2)
> FF= first finder
> S= encountered snakes
> PH= Purple Heart for getting injured while boxing
> Ps=parasite which never caught on, hello, it's still a hitchhiker
> SBAF= shoulda been a find (my first box was a sbaf, even had to sort
> out incorrect the directions and it was STILL missing)
> CBAF= coulda been a find but I got distracted on the way and found
> something better to do
> WBAF= woulda been a find but those damn picnickers were sitting right
> next to the box ALL DAY!
> X= exchange, if showing up at a party and getting 52 stamps in one
> hour without getting up from the picnic table counts then my SBAF
counts!
> U= underwater box
> T= toasted/tipsy and STILL found the box even with those lousy
> directions (drunk letterboxing, try it at your next gathering...)
> H= found it while in heels and you still made me walk four miles only
> to end up at the parking lot, your getting a bill from my chiropodist!
> M=mystery box
> VM= virtually a mystery box cause the clues were so bad
> DL= dead lemur box
> WWJD= got a sermon from the religious clues I had to put up with while
> hunting for this box.
>
> And now we can add WOM, at this rate I can parse out all my F's! Have
> I missed any Psychomommy?


Re: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: lizardbuttsfamily (mmebt@hotmail.com) | Date: 2004-09-09 08:09:32 UTC
You forgot the famous L count: lizards and other reptiles. Lizardbutt
started this count, and Psychomommy has it as one of her legendary
counts.

And then there is R for rescue (Mudmomma's fiasco).

NH could be Ryan's count for his naked hiker that he once saw-maybe
that was Ivy.

Lizardbutt's mom




> Oh Yipee, new letters! So let's see:
>
> F= plain old boring find (usually of a 1, 2 or 3 on the PI scale)
> HH= hitchhiker
> V= virtual...although if you don't get out from behind that computer
> you'll wish your fat ass were virtual
> PLB= postal letter box for the Particularly Lazy Boxer
> N= Naked boxing (that tramp Ivy is up to N2)
> FF= first finder
> S= encountered snakes
> PH= Purple Heart for getting injured while boxing
> Ps=parasite which never caught on, hello, it's still a hitchhiker
> SBAF= shoulda been a find (my first box was a sbaf, even had to sort
> out incorrect the directions and it was STILL missing)
> CBAF= coulda been a find but I got distracted on the way and found
> something better to do
> WBAF= woulda been a find but those damn picnickers were sitting
right
> next to the box ALL DAY!
> X= exchange, if showing up at a party and getting 52 stamps in one
> hour without getting up from the picnic table counts then my SBAF
counts!
> U= underwater box
> T= toasted/tipsy and STILL found the box even with those lousy
> directions (drunk letterboxing, try it at your next gathering...)
> H= found it while in heels and you still made me walk four miles
only
> to end up at the parking lot, your getting a bill from my
chiropodist!
> M=mystery box
> VM= virtually a mystery box cause the clues were so bad
> DL= dead lemur box
> WWJD= got a sermon from the religious clues I had to put up with
while
> hunting for this box.
>
> And now we can add WOM, at this rate I can parse out all my F's!
Have
> I missed any Psychomommy?


Re: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: Becky Rink (Beckyrink@hotmail.com) | Date: 2004-09-09 07:32:34 UTC-04:00
Yes you have missed ES: entrance stamps. The stamps that you get on your
had that can readmit you to the place. I had them stamp my log one time.
:^)
Schizokeet


>From: Hikers_n_ Hounds
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [LbNA] WOM clues
>Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:11:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Wow, what an "un-ladylike" rant! Cool!!!!
>
>Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee Hedge wrote:--- In
>letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, mjpepe1@c... wrote:
> > Hi April:
> > WOM's should count as any other P. That's how we do it and have seen
>it done by others. I just don't list them on our website where our P's
>are listed.
> >
> > Have fun and just get out there & box!!!
> >
> > Mark Pepe
>
>
>Oh Yipee, new letters! So let's see:
>
>F= plain old boring find (usually of a 1, 2 or 3 on the PI scale)
>HH= hitchhiker
>V= virtual...although if you don't get out from behind that computer
>you'll wish your fat ass were virtual
>PLB= postal letter box for the Particularly Lazy Boxer
>N= Naked boxing (that tramp Ivy is up to N2)
>FF= first finder
>S= encountered snakes
>PH= Purple Heart for getting injured while boxing
>Ps=parasite which never caught on, hello, it's still a hitchhiker
>SBAF= shoulda been a find (my first box was a sbaf, even had to sort
>out incorrect the directions and it was STILL missing)
>CBAF= coulda been a find but I got distracted on the way and found
>something better to do
>WBAF= woulda been a find but those damn picnickers were sitting right
>next to the box ALL DAY!
>X= exchange, if showing up at a party and getting 52 stamps in one
>hour without getting up from the picnic table counts then my SBAF counts!
>U= underwater box
>T= toasted/tipsy and STILL found the box even with those lousy
>directions (drunk letterboxing, try it at your next gathering...)
>H= found it while in heels and you still made me walk four miles only
>to end up at the parking lot, your getting a bill from my chiropodist!
>M=mystery box
>VM= virtually a mystery box cause the clues were so bad
>DL= dead lemur box
>WWJD= got a sermon from the religious clues I had to put up with while
>hunting for this box.
>
>And now we can add WOM, at this rate I can parse out all my F's! Have
>I missed any Psychomommy?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LbNA] WOM clues

From: Wilson Revelle (ph0t0bug@bellsouth.net) | Date: 2004-09-09 07:57:45 UTC-05:00
What about the "NM"? The Near Miss count is important.. A Near Miss in
the box that you had to go back to the start of the clue 3 times and
your on the verge of giving up and turn around to head back to the house
and see the "Leaning Stick" part of the clue you missed the first 2
times.

You forgot the famous L count: lizards and other reptiles. Lizardbutt
started this count, and Psychomommy has it as one of her legendary
counts.

And then there is R for rescue (Mudmomma's fiasco).

NH could be Ryan's count for his naked hiker that he once saw-maybe
that was Ivy.




> Oh Yipee, new letters! So let's see:
>
> F= plain old boring find (usually of a 1, 2 or 3 on the PI scale)
> HH= hitchhiker
> V= virtual...although if you don't get out from behind that computer
> you'll wish your fat ass were virtual
> PLB= postal letter box for the Particularly Lazy Boxer
> N= Naked boxing (that tramp Ivy is up to N2)
> FF= first finder
> S= encountered snakes
> PH= Purple Heart for getting injured while boxing
> Ps=parasite which never caught on, hello, it's still a hitchhiker
> SBAF= shoulda been a find (my first box was a sbaf, even had to sort
> out incorrect the directions and it was STILL missing)
> CBAF= coulda been a find but I got distracted on the way and found
> something better to do
> WBAF= woulda been a find but those damn picnickers were sitting
right
> next to the box ALL DAY!
> X= exchange, if showing up at a party and getting 52 stamps in one
> hour without getting up from the picnic table counts then my SBAF
counts!
> U= underwater box
> T= toasted/tipsy and STILL found the box even with those lousy
> directions (drunk letterboxing, try it at your next gathering...)
> H= found it while in heels and you still made me walk four miles
only
> to end up at the parking lot, your getting a bill from my
chiropodist!
> M=mystery box
> VM= virtually a mystery box cause the clues were so bad
> DL= dead lemur box
> WWJD= got a sermon from the religious clues I had to put up with
while
> hunting for this box.
>
> And now we can add WOM, at this rate I can parse out all my F's!
Have
> I missed any Psychomommy?





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